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     Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Wow! It's been quiet around the forum. Maybe I can get some conversation going regarding symbols. #1 As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, we've had a lot of issues with symbols since upgrading. I'm hoping I may be on to something as far as the issue goes. We have a designated folder on the network where users dump their symbols when they translate a DWG into Cadvance. When translating they set the symbol path to go to this folder. Once the drawing has been translated, the active symbol search path in Options-Paths is still set to this directory until it is manually changed back to the path it is supposed to be. When we experience symbol issues, the common denominator is the user's active symbol search path is still set to this translated path. Path #4 is the path that we translate to. Paths 1-3 are the paths that we pull from when placing symbols and these are the default search paths set in the ini. Is there a way to get a translated drawing to use the default ini settings or is there a way to have a macro reset the ini paths without completely loading the ini (I don’t want the macro to do anything to the layers)? #2 We get a lot of furniture drawings from furniture vendors that we have to incorporate into our Cadvance drawings. These furniture drawings are notorious for having lots of layers and these layers usually conflict with our default Cadvance layers, which makes controlling the furniture symbol color difficult. Does anybody have any tips for incorporating outside drawings with existing Cadvance drawings? Thanks for any suggestions. | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I’ve been going through my symbols with a fine toothcomb trying to find out what is causing our problems (see posts above from Dec 19 and Jan 5). When I open my symbols using WordPad, most of them tell me the information below: Vers:2D 20.0 32 1024 0 However, there are several symbols that tell me this: Vers:2D 20.0 32 8 1 All the symbols were made using the same world size but for some reason I am getting two different scales. What determines this when I create a symbol? Also what does that last digit represent (the 1 and the 0)? Thank you for any advice as this problem is frustrating us all. | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 205.196.151.98 |
Jeff, My wish for the autosave... You open a drawing and Cadvance says that an AutoSave file exists and asks if it should open it... Cadvance should display the date/time stamp and filesize of both the original drawing and the autosave drawing, so the user can easily choose which one to open. I'm not sure how it happens, but sometimes the autosave is newer and sometimes the original file is newer. As for the drawing disappearing. I assume that Cadvance crashed at just the right point to lose the file. It has happened before here. But we run Novell Netware which has a Salvage command built in to the network operating system. Basically it is a "network undelete". With Cadvance it gives us version history. Everytime we save a VWF file on our network, the previous version is stored and can be retrieved via Salvage. So if Cadvance loses the drawing, we just salvage it and continue...just takes seconds. Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I'm not sure if this is a wish list item or a bug report. I wish Cadvance had a better backup system than the current autosave file thingy. The problem with the autosave file is that the backup file created is only temporary and goes away once the VWF is closed. Now for the bug part. There are times (maybe once every couple of months) where a user experiences a Windows crash while in Cadvance. After rebooting, the drawing the user was in no longer exists. Anyone else experience this or know what might be causing it? | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.58.0.10 |
A note regarding the posting just below: You can translate to AutoCAD 14 if you do them one at a time. | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.58.0.10 |
When trying to (bulk) translate several VWF drawings at a time out to AutoCAD, Cadvance will not translate to Release 14. It translates to one of the newer Acad releases. | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.71 |
SUBJECT: SYMBOL PLACE When placing symbols, if you change “placement rotation” midstream during placement, the extents box does not change or update to reflect the new rotation value. | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.58.0.10 |
SUBJECT: AutoCAD drawing translation. AutoCAD hatch patterns do not always translate properly. It may be a scaling problem or a line spacing problem. In any case, areas where there should be several to many crosshatch lines, it comes across into Cadvance as only one or two lines. | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.58.0.10 |
The arrangement or listing order of textures for both line and area textures should be user definable. | ||
| Admin F I T Username: Furukawa Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.167.236.154 |
Robert, Please tell us more specifically, for CV Help should work. | ||
| Robert Staskiewicz Username: Robert_staskiewicz Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.71 |
The Cadvance help screen or command does not work. | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Boy, I was sure hoping someone else was experiencing the same thing. It is getting frustrating. The problem keeps popping up- sometimes more serious than others. There are times when I really have to fight with a drawing to get it back into working order. I really like the new Cadvance but if I wasn't experiencing this problem I would really love the new Cadvance. | ||
| Joe_calvin Username: Joe_calvin Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 8.7.87.222 |
We went from V7.2B all the way to 12 without any symbol translation and without any problems regarding symbols. At least, none of us remember doing any translating. It appears that there was a translation required after version 5, but not since. | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
When we upgraded from 99.5 to V12 we experienced a lot of symbol issues and I was reminded that with versions 2000 and later, old symbol libraries had to be run through a symbol translator. We did all that but we are still experiencing some of the same issues with older drawings. Do I need to translate the symbols that already existed within the old drawing? Is there a way to do that? The problem seems to pop up when working in drawings that contain both pre-2000 and V12 symbols in them. | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Joe and Ken, Thank you for your suggestions. I have forwarded them to our IT dept and hopefully we can get to the bottom of this. The content of our license got deleted again this morning. Needless to say, this is a frustrating problem. FIT, Do Joe and Ken's suggestions, along with your knowledge of how the CADVSLM file works, shed any light on the problem we are experiencing? Thanks for all the help. Jeff | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 205.196.151.98 |
Jeff, I am an Architect and the IT person for our firm. I don't see why your IT person would be upset with you. His network may be causing the problem. I believe you once mentioned you are using a Windows network. I don't run Windows servers, so I cannot help from that standpoint. But one thing I did notice here. At one point, I found a couple of users who were misconfigured. Their PCs were going across our WAN to pull a Cadvance license. While that happened, we noticed more license file corruption problems. After I reconfigured their PCs to pull from their own license on the LAN, things improved. So slow access to the license file might increase the risk of problems. Pass that along to your IT guy. Try to get him to help you troubleshoot this. Maybe there is something on your network slowing things down. Regards, Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Ken, No I am not sure but that is out of my jurisdiction- and out of my know-how. We experienced the same issue when we were on 99.5. We were never on site license before so that issue is new to us. I sure would like to eliminate it. Everytime the CADVSLM.DAT gets emptied, I have 30+ users and 1 IT guy frustrated with me. Thanks for your input. | ||
| Joe_calvin Username: Joe_calvin Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 8.7.87.222 |
Jeff, Is Cadvance one of you start-up items? We've had some trouble where Cadvance would get open before a starting-up computer would establish it's network connections, and then Cadvance would not recognize them. We use individual rather than a network license, but I could see how the trouble we had might affect a network license. Wayne here fixed the problem (99% of the time anyway) by adding "NET USE P:\Server\PROJECTS" to the problem computers autoexec.bat file. If you do this, of course change the drive letter, server name and share name as needed. | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 205.196.151.98 |
Jeff, It almost sounds like you have some serious network issues there. If a drawing is open and another person tries to access it, they should just get a message stating that the drawing is already open by someone else. That doesn't make sense that it would get deleted by this process. For the file save as issue....are they not saving it at all? And you mentioned earlier your licensing issues. I would not have thought the save, open, and licensing method would have changed much between the last two versions. I have not run into this problem here on v2002. Are you sure that your network is operating properly? Regards, Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Sometimes when a user has a drawing open and another user tries to access the same drawing, the drawing gets deleted. The next time the user tries to save, it brings up the Save As window. If the user doesn't resave it as the original drawing, then the drawing is completely lost when it gets closed. | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Ken, Thanks for the input. From what I can tell, every time a user opens Cadvance it writes their infor to the CADVSLM.DAT file. When they close out it deletes their info. That seems to be where the problem is. On occasion, everything is getting deleted. | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 205.196.151.98 |
Jeff, If you make it read only, you won't be able to use Cadvance. When Cadvance is started, it checks that file for the license information, and then it writes information to that file. Either the current Cadvance version has a problem or you have some type of network troubles. Regards, Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I wish I was seeing it on rare occasions. We lost our CADVSLM.DAT twice today. Well, not actually lost- it still showed up but it had a size of 0kb and kicked us all out. Anyone else having this? I am wondering about making the file a read only file to see if that can stop it from getting emptied. Anyone know if this will cause any problems? | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 205.196.151.98 |
Jeff, I have seen this happen on rare occasions. I keep a copy of the original license file and I have a batch file that copies the original over the production license file. If the license file gets corrupted, I just run the batch file. I have given copies to a couple of key people so they can run it if I happen to be out of the office. Not too big of an issue for us. Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Twice in the last month our site license file, "CADVSLM.DAT" has gotten wiped out. It still shows up on the server but it has a file size of 0KB and users get kicked out of Cadvance. Anyone else experience this or know what may be causing this? | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I keep getting an empty Cadvance file showing up in the main root of our drawing server. It's just a 15kb file with no name other than ".vwf". I delete it and it comes back a short time later. Anyone know what this is? | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Thanks Ken. I was able to get it with: i_ret = CdiSetGridLock(CDI_ON) Cheers, Jeff | ||
| Ken_etter Username: Ken_etter Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 66.84.139.218 |
Jeff, Sure! ' get existing snap mode xsnap=CdiGetSnapMode() ' set the desired snap mode CdiSetSnapMode(CDI_INTERSECTIONSNAP) ' reset previous snap mode (place this at end of macro) i=CdiSetSnapMode (xsnap) Regards, Ken | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Is there a way to have a macro set that cursor snap to on? | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I figured it out. The Gridlock line in my ini needed to read: GridLock=1 instead of: GridLock=0 This setting can also be changed in Options-Grid by checking the Cursor Snap box | ||
| Admin F I T Username: Furukawa Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.164.60.204 |
Jeff, We could't reproduce what you said here. Please tell us your grid size and send us your orth macros to us for further investigation. Thank you, TF | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Re: Grid snapping messages below I'm having more and more users complain about this. Cadvance seems to default to this. When I launch Cadvance, set my grid size and turn the grid on, the cursor moves freely between grid points even with the snap set to grid. I don't know if it's related or not, but the Ortho Move and Ortho Copy macros also have their cursors move freely even though the selected item does move ortholy (is that a word?). With Cadvance 99, the cursor moved at 90 degree angles. Anyone else having this issue? | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
Thank you. Tabbing took care of it. Jeff | ||
| Admin F I T Username: Furukawa Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.164.53.248 |
Jeff, Just typing in a new number in the box will not not update the data. You have to press Tab to move to next and hit OK. In general in Windows' programs, "Tab out" exits the field and then the changes are accepted. Internally in CADVANCE programs, the Tab-out checks if it is a valid entry and then receives the input data. There should be other ways in this area, but as long as using C++ and Microsoft internal modules, this is the way that behaves in Windows standard operation "for now". | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I am trying to change a setting in my dimension setup window but the change won't stick. I open the dimension setup window, click on the Ordinate tab and change "Distance leader line is offset from dimension". If I click an a different tab then come back to the Ordinate tab, the setting has returned to its previous setting. Because there is no Save button on the Ordinate tab I am unable to save my setting. | ||
| Admin F I T Username: Furukawa Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.164.60.187 |
Jeff, I tried as you said but cursor didn't move freely. What happened was as follows: Placed a text string with cursor Free, Changed to Grid, Picked the text string (anywhere on the text string) Select Move or press F2, Moved the text string, Cursor moved as Grid setting, i.e., didn't move freely. It snapped to a grid point at the point where the text string was picked, thus the origin of the text string was off the grid point. We still don't understand why it happened. T.F | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I was just able to reproduce it on my computer. I launched Cadvance, placed a piece of text in a new drawing, turned on the grid then tried to move the text from text point (.x) to grid point (.g). The cursor moved freely between grid points regardless of whether or not I had snap hierarchy checked. | ||
| Admin F I T Username: Furukawa Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 67.101.49.7 |
Jeff, I couldn't reporduce the problem, but please confirm with the person on the particular CAVANCE station if he has set Snap Hierarchy by Option/Misce. If so, I would like to know the sequence of snaps he has set up. Else, we have no idea about this issue for now. T. F | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
No. I have the grid on and can see it but the mouse moves freely between the grid points.  | ||
| Alexander Medwedew Username: Alexander_medwedew Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 72.225.242.103 |
Could it be that the grid size setting is larger than the view? | ||
| Jeff_hayden Username: Jeff_hayden Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 216.62.125.199 |
I've had some users that, when setting snap to grid, are not getting their cursor to jump from grid point to grid point when moving the mouse. The item will still land on the grid when released but the mouse movement moves freely. I am unable to duplicate it on my computer but I am also unable to fix it on the other computers. Any suggestions are appreciated. |